Agenda item
Application/Disciplinary Matter
Purpose of Report
For members to consider an application to review an existing Premises Licence in respect of WAG 3, 38 Bristol Road, Gloucester, GL1 5SD.
Minutes:
Licensing Officer’s Report
The Licensing officer presented the report, the purpose of which was for members to consider an application to review an existing Premises Licence in respect of WAG 3, 38 Bristol Road, Gloucester, GL1 5SD.
The Licensing Officer highlighted a typographical error in section 4.5 of the officer report.
This section should have read:
“The issues identified which impact on the prevention of crime and disorder are:
Underage sales of age restricted products and the supply of illegal vapes and failing to provide CCTV.”
All parties were notified prior to the meeting about the typographical error.
No clarity was requested on the report of the Licensing Officer by the representative of the Licence Holder nor the Trading Standards Officer’s.
Statement of Gloucestershire County Council’s Senior Trading Standards Officer
The Senior Trading Standard Officer noted that the store was situated between an Indian restaurant and a cafe in a popular residential area and that complaints about the store began in Summer 2023 following a suspension of the Licence in July 2021. She noted that under the Nicotine Inhaling Products (Age of Sale and Proxy Person Regulations) 2015, made it illegal to sell nicotine to anyone under 18, and that there were fines up to £2,500 per offence. She said that tobacco regulations required that health warnings covered 30% of the front and back area of packaging and that failure to comply potentially could result in up to 3 months imprisonment and an unlimited fine. She further highlighted that NHS stated that vapes should not be available to children.
She said that on the 29th of July 2021, the store licence was suspended for a period of 21 days after a review, that was decided by a previous Licensing Sub Committee. She said that in July 2023, Trading Standards received reports from the police and members of the public that illegal vapes were being sold at the store and were regularly sold to children. She highlighted the following instances that had occurred since.
· 19th July 2023. A Trading Standards Officer purchased a VapSoloKing 10,000 Puff Vape which was illegal owing to excessive tank size.
· 25th July 2023. An inspection found 476 non-compliant vapes which were seized. The Licence Holder further refused to provide the CCTV and said that the van that delivered the Vapes did not park in view of the camera so would not have appeared on the recording.
· 23rd August 2023. A test purchase was carried out. A 15-year-old volunteer was refused on the test purchase. However, a Trading Standards Officer identified further illegal vapes for sale in the premises.
· 25th September 2023. 221 illegal vapes were seized. A written warning was provided to the premises holder.
- 25th October 2023. An officerprovided information about which vapes were legal to sell, following advice being sought by the store owner.
- 13th December 2023. Trading Standards received a complaint from a concerned parent, whose daughterhad allegedly purchased vapes and alcohol from the store. The child had stated that Wag 3 was where “all the kids go”.
- 14th February 2024. A concerned parent contactedTrading Standards stating that their 12-year-old child had allegedly purchased an illegal vape each from the store.
- 18th March 2024. A report was received by the Safeguarding Team atGloucestershire County Council stating that they had received information that the store was selling vapes to underage children.
- 8th April 2024. A parent of a 13-year-old child reported that the shop was allegedly selling vapes to their child.
- 26th April 2024. A parent contactedTrading Standards alleging that their 15-year-old daughter had purchased a vape from the store and that the seller was around 14 years old.
- 15th May 2024. Following the complaints a visitwas conducted by Trading Standards. The Store Manager was informed about whyvapes could not be sold to children, that they needed to ask for ID and asked the store for training records and a refusal register. The store did not provide evidence of training. The refusals log had not been updated since September 2023. 74 illegal vapes were seized.
- 29th May 2024. A test purchase was conducted. Thetest purchaser asked the shop worker for a disposable vape and was given twooptions. He paid for one and left the store. The vape was a 5,000 puff vape marked 0% nicotine but contained warnings not to sell to persons under 18.
The Vape listed above was brought to the Licensing Sub-Committee to be examined by members if they wished to inspect them
· 30th May 2024 the test purchase was repeated by another purchaser. The 15
year old volunteer managed to purchase a Sike vape. This contained 2% nicotine but had no challenges to age or identification.
- 5th June 2024. A letter was sent to Wag 3informing them that a sale of a vape containing nicotine to a minor had occurred.
- 9th July 2024. A visit was conducted by TradingStandards. Questions were asked as to why the sales had occurred. They had been informed that staff members had been trained but did not listen. Trading Standards were shown a log evidencing a pass on a Police test alcohol test. However, on checking the refusal log, this had not been logged.
- 22nd July 2024. Trading Standards received afurther report of selling illegal vapes to children. It was alleged that thestaff member was removing packaging before the sale to make it less obviousabout the breaches being made.
- 11th September 2024. 10,000 puff 0% nicotinevapes were found behind the counter. These had been labelled over and on closer inspection were found to be containing 2% nicotine which were illegal due to their size. 70 were seized and on testing, were found to contain Nicotine.
- 29th October 2024. During a test purchase, the seller removed the outer packaging from a vape andhanded it to the 16-year-old test purchaser with just the plastic, which contained no labelling or usage instructions.
- 5th November 2024. The Licence Holder was writtento advising him of the failure of the store in regard to the Licensing objectives and was invited for an interview.
- 7th November 2024. Officers went tothe store to request CCTV around the time of the test purchase. The male behind the counter was only 17 years old. He contacted the Store Manager who attended the store. Both stated that they could not work the CCTV. Trading Standards asked for the Box containing the CCTV. During this, the Store Manager located another box which was not plugged in. The CCTV box was placed in a bag by the Store Owner and handed to Trading Standards.
- 14th November 2024. The packaging was opened forinspection by Trading Standards. The passwords provided did not work. The boxwas a different one to the one that was seized. It was alleged that the StoreOwner purposefully switched the boxes.
- 18th November 2024. The Licence Holder called theservice asking for advice regarding the sales of 0% nicotine vapes. He said that he had told his staff not to sell Nicotine vapes to underage persons or they would face a fine.
The Senior Trading Standards Officer stated that the evidence provided evidenced that the Premises Licence should be revoked by the Licensing Sub-Committee.
The Chair noted that Trading Standards had visited the premises on numerous occasions, she asked if it was correct to state that there were no training records. In response, the Senior Trading Standards Officer replied that this was correct. She said that no training records were provided on any visit and that she was advised that there were no records.
The Chair asked for more clarity about whether packaging had been amended on the Vapes to make it less obvious if they contained Nicotine. In response,
the Senior Trading Standards Officer said that the packaging had not been amended, however, in relation to some vapes behind the counter, they were being sold as 0% nicotine vapes but had a sticky label that covered the fact that they actually contained 2% nicotine.
Statement of the Store Manager
The Store Manager stated that Wag 3 did have training records, contrary to the statement by Trading Standards. He said that this was explained to the Senior Trading Standards Officer during a visit. He said that the paperwork was at his home premises, not at the store but they did have it. He said that each employee had been trained in full. He said that training was provided both in English and Pashto. He said that there was an employee WhatsApp group, where staff members were told about the need to check ID and other training requirements. He stated that Wag 3 had also provided the address of where they purchased stock from. He said that the boxes provided stated that they were 0% Nicotine and that they were unaware of the labelling beneath it. He said that Wag 3 always sought advice and did not repeat mistakes that they had made.
Councillor Simms asked if they bought stock from the same supplier after it was confirmed that they had sold 2% Nicotine Vapes, with a 0% label over it. The Store Manager replied that they did not.
Councillor Simms asked how long did the training for staff last. The Store Manager replied the staff received a couple of weeks training.
Councillor Simms asked how Wag 3 evidenced that the staff had understood the training. In response, the Store Manager stated that they had to tell the Store Manager and Licence Holder all information they had learned.
Councillor Simms asked if the Store Manager had brought in evidence of training records, that he stated had been shown to Trading Standards.
The WhatsApp message was shown to the Sub-Committee. However, as the evidence was a voice recording that was in Pashto and could not be translated, it was deemed inadmissible.
The Chair asked why there was a discrepancy between what Trading Standards had said in relation to training records, compared to their statement. She asked if the records had been shared with the Trading Standards Team. In response, the Licence Holder stated that he shared the WhatsApp group messages with the Trading Standards Team. He said that the Paperwork was not shared, as it was at the Licence Holder’s home.
The Chair asked if they took the training records at the Licence Holder’s home to Trading Standards. In response, the Store Manager stated that the paperwork was not sent to them.
Councillor Simms asked if they had evidence, including signatures that they had been fully trained.
Councillor Simms asked the Trading Standards Officer, if Wag 3 representatives had shown them any WhatsApp messages in relation to training. In response, the Trading Standards Officer stated that they had been shown an audio WhatsApp message, but that she had a similar issue in that it was in Pashto and that she could not translate it. Further, no physical copies had been provided.
The Chair asked what happened to the CCTV footage and why it was not made available. In response, he stated that he did not know how Trading Standards had mixed the two boxes up. He said they left one and took another. He said that the Licence Holder was upset when he found out that the CCTV footage had been taken as they had not returned it previously when they had previously taken some. He said that the Licence Holder sacked the staff members who had made mistakes.
Officer Sum Up
The Licensing Officer outlined the options available to the Sub-Committee, listed in paragraph 7.4 of the report.
Gloucestershire County Council’s Senior Trading Standards Closing Statement
The Trading Standards Officer noted that all evidence had been given during her initial statement. She added that Trading Standards were considering prosecution but that a decision had not been made.
Store Manager Closing Statement
The Store Manager stated that some of the employees had made a mistake. He said that the Licence Holder had sacked staff when they broke the rules. He said that Wag 3 stopped purchasing from the supplier who had provided them falsely labelled Vapes. He said that whenever a mistake was made, Wag 3 did not make it again.
The Decision
Hearing
The meeting comprised of Councillors Radley, Norledge and Simms. The panel heard from the Licensing Officer, Representatives of Trading Standards, and the Store Manager.
Legal Matters
The Licensing Sub-Committee had due regard to the promotion of
the four Licensing Objectives, the National Guidance (Section 182, Chapter 11),
the Council'sown Licensing Policy Statement and all relevant submissions.
Decision
The Licensing Sub-Committee RESOLVED to REVOKE the licence.
The reasons for this decision were as follows:
· To take no action was not appropriate. This was because there was a serious ongoing pattern of behaviour. The premises had not learned their lesson after their 21-day suspension in 2021.
· Issuing a formal warning was not appropriate. Trading Standards had done so on numerous occasions, and this had not had the desired impact.
· To modify the conditions of the Licence was not appropriate. There were no conditions that could be added, as the Licensing Sub-Committee had no faith that these would be abided by.
· Excluding a Licensable Activity from the scope of the licence was inappropriate. This was because it would not solve the issues created by the store, which had led to the review.
· Removing the Designated Premises Supervisor (DPS) was not appropriate. The fact that fact the DPS is not taking this review seriously enough to attend the committee has no faith that by removing the DPS and bringing in a new one would solve the issues at this premises.
- Suspending theLicence was not appropriate. This had happened previously in 2021 and did not have the desired outcome.
- Therefore,
itwas deemed
appropriate to revoke the licencefor the
following reasons:
- Safeguardingwas a large issue.
- There was apattern of not promoting the licensing objectives of the prevention of crime and disorder and the protectionof children from harm.
- There hadalready been a 21-day suspension at the premises in 2021.
- There had been numerousfailed test purchases.
- The Sub-Committee had no confidence in the Licence Holder.
- Wag 3 had not listened to any advice offered on numerous occasions by Trading Standards.
- They hadbought vapes in bulk with no due diligence.
- Having no CCTVbreached the conditions of their licence.
- The store lefta 17-year-old in charge of a store with an alcohol licence.
- They did not operate a Challenge 25Policy.
- They had notkept an up-to-date refusal log.
- They had no evidence of an initial or regulartraining log.
- They wereoffered paid training by Trading Standards and turned this down.
- TheSub-Committee had no faith that the Licence Holder would change how the store operated. Nothing was saidby the Store Manager to give the Sub-Committee belief that these matters would
change or that they even took them seriously.
The LicensingConditions had been severely undermined and the only way to promote them, was to revoke the licence.
Right of Appeal
All parties were reminded that there was a right to appeal to the local magistrates' court within 21 days of the decision.
Supporting documents:
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WAG 3 Committee report, item 15.
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WAG 3 Premises licence Part A, item 15.
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Completed Bundle, item 15.
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Licence Review Application - 18-12-24, item 15.
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Decision letter - WAG 3 2021, item 15.
PDF 148 KB